Is it possible to use massive with reason

Once again, it seems a shame that Massive X has decided to axe one of their two filters from the original Massive, instead opting for a selection of creative, high-quality filters. Once again the Massive X filter lacks in the visual feedback department — the knobs you see are what you get.

In comparison, Serum actually has 2 filters, one of which lies in the FX section of the synth, without the same visual feedback. A redeeming factor for Massive X is the filter types. Serum still wins in this department, with over 50 filter types between standard low passes and high passes, all the way up to creative filter types like Reverb and Combs of which Steve Duda is always adding more. On both synths, the controls change depending on the filter type selected, but Massive X has more obvious changes as the knobs move position when you change the type, whereas the knobs stay still in Serum.

On each, you can select from the array of preset sounds, neatly organized into sections. The main benefit is that all of the noises included with Massive X sound great. Some add great texture, some are random and inspire unique sound design. Not only that, but you can change the pitch, the start point, the keyboard tracking, whether the noise loops or not, random start points and a whole lot more. Once again, the Noise Osc on Serum also has a direct out switch for bypassing FX, which you can do on the routing section of Massive X.

Serum has 10 FX 11 if you count Hyper and Dimension as 2 , with each effect in its own unit that you can turn on and off as needed. Massive has 2 FX sections, each with 3 slots. While Massive X certainly seems to have a greater number of unique FX and Serum sticks to the basics , Massive X is limited in the number you can use.

In contrast, Serum has 3 fixed envelopes and 4 LFOs that expand up to 8 as you use them all. Not only do they give you more control, but they sound better.

Not only do you get 16 macros instead of the 4 with Serum, but you also get 8 of them mapped by default for easy access.

For some, that might be a pain, but you can easily unmap them if desired. However, with the modulation matrix in Serum, you can use your macros in much more practical ways. You can change the response curve, assign macros to auxillary controls control the amount of modulation from another source, like an LFO and visually see the modulation at work.

If you want a nice list of the modulation going on in your patches, the Matrix in Serum is a life saver. Another cool feature in Serum are the Chaos oscillators, both of which have a slightly different effect. Chaos 1 tends to randomise itself every time a new note is played, whereas Chaos 2 has more of a free-drift effect, perfect for analogue sounds. While we would need a full course to explain this feature see our Serum Masterclass included with EDM Foundations , what we can say is that there is an insane set of tools allowing you to create endless sounds.

You can save, load, tweak and even use mathematical formulas to create new sounds. Post Sat Aug 07, pm. Post Sun Aug 08, am. Post Mon Aug 09, am. Post Tue Sep 07, am. Post Mon Oct 04, am. Post Mon Nov 01, am. Quick links. Anyone else experiencing this? Post Fri Aug 06, pm I should probably elaborate on my original post and provide a little more detail When Reason launches, the plugin scan freezes on Massive X.

I would love to see Massive in the Reason rack. Especially if NI implemented all the modulators as CV outputs and allowed external audio to be routed through the filters. But in general it would just be nice to be able to use Massive with Reason without having to resort to rewire or sampling.

Messages: 6. Messages: 1. No way would I do this if I was NI. I'd create a Reason-killer instead. NI have plenty of devices to offer in their OWN rack. The Props need to be challenged. Messages: 2. Auditory , Jul 19, Messages: 19, Probably won't happen. EvilDragon , Jul 20, Messages: 1, ShelLuser , Jul 21, Messages: 10, Reaktor is not remotely suited for encapsulation in a RE.

Reaktor cannot provide this because of it's modular nature. The only way this'll fit into the RE concept is if every single 'module component' available in Reaktor gets its own module within Reason. And then you'll very quickly have instruments that look as complicated as the edit view in Reaktor. I can understand why the big pluggins like Reaktor and Kontakt won't work but in all fairness this is a thread about Massive.